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    Pasang pc baru..

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    Post by myee Fri May 01, 2009 9:20 pm

    takpe bro...yang penting berbaloi...
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    Post by neutron Fri May 01, 2009 11:21 pm

    lepas kire2 blk aku tgk kene cukup rm2000 gak baru puas hati.. p5q-e aku tgk ok gak.. ape pandanagan korang psl mabo ni?
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    Post by Eman Leto Sat May 02, 2009 12:22 am

    mmg klau nk pc gaming nk best paling2 kurang rm2000..
    p5q-e mmg lg best klau nk compare ngn p5q.. bleh crossfire,bgus utk oc.. tp rege pn best gk..haha klau rase cm function2 dia berguna amek je la.. tp klau budget pn tight x pyh kot.. p5q/p5q pro pn dh ok..
    p5q pro rm350 ke? kt mane dpt hrga ni?
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    Post by neutron Sat May 02, 2009 1:19 am

    bukan rm350.. rm400 lbh.. p5q-e aku tgk dlm 600 lbh.. nampaknye kene tmbah lg la bajet aku..huhuhu.. tq sb bg pandangan..
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    Post by deep_hunter Sat May 02, 2009 1:55 am

    uih..myk bajet incik ts...bro target nak maen game ape and ase2 spec pc incik nk tahan bape taun?meaning ble maen game2 yg blom kuar lg ke....hihi
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    Post by Eman Leto Sat May 02, 2009 7:55 am

    p5q-e mmg rm600++..
    tp klau xnk buat CF,rasenye p5q pro,p5q pn dh ok.. unless nk show off..haha
    tp klau mobo je gempak bnda lain biase baek x pyh..haha utk gaming focus ngn gc n proc la amek yg power sket.. mobo power tp brg2 x power pn x power gk pc..
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    Post by deep_hunter Sat May 02, 2009 9:15 am

    yup...proc ng gc yg penting untk gaming...kalo chipset tu untk oc ble ar....ng sape yg ske taruk ram besar2..kalo yg mls nk oc cam aku neh aku amek p31 je..ke g31?!?!aku pon da tak igt...tp leh fsb leh up smpai 400 oooo...skjp jela....kang rentung....haha
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    Post by neutron Sat May 02, 2009 1:56 pm

    ok2.. mmg aku ingt nak ambk mabo n proc yg power dulu.. yg lain aku ingt nak ambk yg biase2 dulu sb nak upgrd kemudian.. sb bajet x cukup..huhuhu mabo n proc ni lagi x rosak mmg dah x tkr.. mcm gc, ram, hdd, casing tu x rosak pon gatal tgn nak tukar kalau ada duit..hahaha
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    Post by Eman Leto Sat May 02, 2009 6:16 pm

    proc power=c2d e8400..
    mobo amek je la klau nk amek p5q-e.. tp klau x rase nk buat CF x berbaloi kot..
    mmg plan nk buat cf ke?

    p/s:nk proc lg power amek la i7+x58-chipset mobo.. Razz
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    Post by neutron Sat May 02, 2009 9:58 pm

    aku nak buat main game je..huhuh.. kalau nak amk i7 makan magi la aku jwb nye sem dpn..hahahah..
    ko rs x berbaloi ke? Rolling Eyes

    ok kalau aku ambk e8400 + dgn p5q-e = rm1250, atau Q9550 + Gigabyte EP43-UD3L = rm1350. Eman Leto ,kalau ko la ko ambk mane?
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    Post by Eman Leto Sat May 02, 2009 10:48 pm

    klau rasa nk buat cf,berbaloi.. klau x,x berbaloi kot..
    Q9550 cache lg besar+4 cores tp speed lg kurang dr e8400..
    utk gaming e8400 is better but more cores help on multitasking.. lgpn cache dia lg besar.. klau pndai oc amek je q9550 pastu oc sket smpai 3ghz.. Very Happy
    tp chipset p43 cm xbest je nk oc.. q9550+p5q-e xbleh?hehe
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    Post by neutron Sat May 02, 2009 10:55 pm

    x blh bro.. tu dah lari bnyk bajet aku.. makan magi sungguh la aku jwbnye..hahah
    buat masa skrg ni nak OC tu aku x pandai mane lg.. nanti ni x tahu la..huhuhu

    bro nak tny multitasking tu untuk ape?hahaha.. cheers
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    Post by Eman Leto Sun May 03, 2009 6:06 pm

    go for e8400+p5q-e.. try la tggu org2 lain jwb.. myee ke,sheikomatic.. aku pn bknnye terer sgt.. noob gk..hehe

    multitasking tu buat bnyk2 keje dlm satu masa contohnya main game pstu dgr lagu,online lg.. klau satu core mst semput sbb kene handle bnyk benda dlm satu masa.. tp klau bnyk2 core no prob..
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    Post by myee Sun May 03, 2009 8:41 pm

    klu more on gamers...intel base untuk proc E6750,E6800, Q6600, E8200 dan E8400 pun dah lebeh dari cukup dah, mobo plak amik chipset P35 atau P45 chipset, ape brand pun takpe jangan brand abit sudah(sebab sudah bangkrup)...psu plak tak semestinyerr CM brand sokmo..huntkey pun bleh tahan ade warranty 2 taun lagi atau pun deal dgn org nih terus...

    Trader Yang Dipercayai-Memacam PSU ade pilih jerr mana satu

    perlu di ingatkan...nak main game kena pakai PSU 550watt ke atas with 80% efficiency attach together with PFC...jadi takla mase main latest game tiba2 pc restart sendiri...last skali Grafik Card, part nilah duit kena lebeh skit nih...terpulang samada nak amik ape yang ko dah pilih nvidia ataupun ati...pastikan at least gune memory GDDR4 ke atas with 256bit ke atas with oc version, lagi satu aku suke beli GC yang ade warranty 2 taun ke atas...tapi aku tak brape rekemen sgt dgn brand asus nih, most of this produck jual jenama jerr...powercolor dan colourful brand pun tak brape ok...penah pakai brand nih, tengah layan crysis tetibe jerr kuar garis2...bile check rupe2nyerr tak tahan panas...amik GC yang ade 55nm kebawah kerr..brand palit yang bagi saye ok skit, brand nilah the mother company of Xpertvision and Gainward ade warranty 2 taun lagi arga plak belh check kat link nih...

    Palit GC-just pilih jerr mana yang berkenan

    klu pasal ram plak amik yang biase jerrr...aku rekomen kat seller nih...just amik RAM yang ade 2gb DDR2 800mhz X 2 stik...ram pun bleh tahan, banyak dapat award wooo arga pun berpatutan...

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    Post by Eman Leto Sun May 03, 2009 9:38 pm

    huntkey aku dgr cite x cun mane.. klau aku aku recommend acbel.. Very Happy
    Psl gc plak,setau aku gddr3 pn dh ok.. Smile tp xtau la kn.. aku bkn terer sgt..huhu lgpn gc skrg aku tgk gddr3 je.. ati je yg ade gddr5.. even high end nvidia pn gddr3 je.. in fact,aku x pnh dgr gc gddr4.. lol!
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    Post by sheikomatic Mon May 04, 2009 12:40 am

    Aku suggest P5Q PRO dengan E8400, ikut pricing pczone RM1100.. Memandangkan tak overclock so takde masalah pasal chipset cooling, P5Q PRO pun dah cukup..

    GDDR4 improve performance sikit je, barely noticed improvements, sebab tu ATi skip GDDR4 dan terus guna GDDR5. just 2 3 gc midrange je pakai GDDR4..
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    Post by myee Mon May 04, 2009 7:31 am

    bagi saya GDDR3 for GC dah terlalu lama dah..sebab tuh saya suggest amik GC yang gune at least GDDR4 ke atas...even saya punyerr GC gune GDDR4...bleh tengok kat link bawah...

    Gecube 3870

    huntkey aku suggest sebab affordable price dan ramai user beli...price for huntkey 550watt RM145 dan acbel 510watt RM170.00...terpulanglah memana nak pilih...
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    Post by Hiruka Mon May 04, 2009 6:58 pm

    Asal lak GDDR3 terlalu lama? Even GTX260 216SP GDDR3 tu pon leh tapau HD4870 1GB GDDR5..Graphic Engine is not all about the new mechanism inside but how the all Mechanism tolerate and react with each other..ATi expose pada RAM pon still takleh nk kipas sume nVidia Fans.. Laughing

    Huntkey x ckup tough untuk continous heavy tasking. Even 1 of the best valueble PSU but not so good for Daily xtreme usage.. Very Happy
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    Post by neutron Mon May 04, 2009 7:55 pm

    tq sume bagi info.. myee ko tgk acbel 510watt RM170.00 tu kat mane? aku tgk pczone rm200.. kalau blh dpt rm170 lg bgs..huhuhu..

    GC ni aku x pandai sgt nak pilih.. kalau dgn bajet aku..aku ingt nak ambk yg ni je ..MSI 9600GT (OC) 512MB DDR3 harga pon x la mahal sgt..

    ok p5q-pro tu plan B, kalau x cukup duit aku ambk yg tu.. bujet aku dah tmbh skt jd 2000 lbh skt..
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    Post by myee Mon May 04, 2009 9:26 pm

    Hiruka wrote:Asal lak GDDR3 terlalu lama? Even GTX260 216SP GDDR3 tu pon leh tapau HD4870 1GB GDDR5..Graphic Engine is not all about the new mechanism inside but how the all Mechanism tolerate and react with each other..ATi expose pada RAM pon still takleh nk kipas sume nVidia Fans.. Laughing

    Huntkey x ckup tough untuk continous heavy tasking. Even 1 of the best valueble PSU but not so good for Daily xtreme usage.. Very Happy

    opss...ye keee, sorylerr klu terasa...anyway this is my point of view...i prefer gc come wz latest gddr...i dont care how good it is, as long as can play most of my favourite games without any trouble...and since i never try for nvidia gc b4, don't have any comment about it...tanya skit bleh...klu gtx260 216SP GDDR3 best sgt, nape pakai Palit HD4870X2 Smile

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    Post by sheikomatic Mon May 04, 2009 11:53 pm

    Frequency GDDR4 lebih sikit je dari GDDR3 dalam 200MHz sahaja, extra 200MHz is not enough to compensate for its higher latencies though.

    GC GDDR4 paling tinggi memory frequency dier 2200MHz tapi ada GDDR3 yang sampai 2484MHz, in fact GDDR4 had to score at extra memory frequency at least 2600MHz to beat GDDR3. Frequency GDDR4 lebih terlalu sedikit, sebab tu Qimonda dah stop research GDDR4 dan terus skip ke GDDR5.

    Nak compare GDDR4 dengan GDDR3 ni sama la macam compare valueram DDR3 dengan performance DDR2, walaupun frequency DDR3 lagi tinggi tapi timing dier lagi tinggi, sebab tu la DDR2 boleh kalahkan DDR3. GDDR4 researh dier kejap je, tak sempat jadi performance lagi pun, walaupun frequency GDDR3 rendah sikit tapi timing dier lagi rendah, so GDDR3 outperform GDDR4.

    Memory frequency Palit 4870X2 GDDR5 dah 4000MHz, kalau nak dibandingkan dengan GDDR4 just 2200MHz, GDDR3 dalam 1800MHz, boleh nampak perbezaan besar antara GDDR5 dan GDDR4, GDDR4 beza terlalu sedikit dengan GDDR3. GDDR5 obviously boleh pawn GDDR4 dengan GDDR3 sebab frequency dier je dah sampai 4000MHz

    Kalau nak compare gc, memory bus width pun kena ambik kira.. Palit 4870X2 2GB GDDR5 512-bit bus width, comfirm GTX260 448-bit 896MB GDDR3 kalah punya.. Kalau compare dengan 4870 256-bit 1GB GDDR5 je kemungkinan besar la GTX260 448-bit 896MB GDDR3 bleh tapau. Kalau bus width dan GDDR tak sama kena la run benchmark.


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    Post by neutron Tue May 05, 2009 1:05 am

    hebat2 la korang ni.. cheers

    cuba korang tgk antara 3 gc ni yg mn korang rs ok ?
    http://hothardware.com/Articles/NVIDIA_GeForce_9600_GT_Roundup_PNY_MSI_ASUS/
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    Post by sheikomatic Tue May 05, 2009 1:57 am

    Ikut spec MSI la paling best, cuma MSI je yang OC, cooling pun bagus..

    Ikut pricing pczone pun RM370, boleh tahan Smile
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    Post by Hiruka Tue May 05, 2009 1:49 pm

    myee wrote:
    Hiruka wrote:Asal lak GDDR3 terlalu lama? Even GTX260 216SP GDDR3 tu pon leh tapau HD4870 1GB GDDR5..Graphic Engine is not all about the new mechanism inside but how the all Mechanism tolerate and react with each other..ATi expose pada RAM pon still takleh nk kipas sume nVidia Fans.. Laughing

    Huntkey x ckup tough untuk continous heavy tasking. Even 1 of the best valueble PSU but not so good for Daily xtreme usage.. Very Happy

    opss...ye keee, sorylerr klu terasa...anyway this is my point of view...i prefer gc come wz latest gddr...i dont care how good it is, as long as can play most of my favourite games without any trouble...and since i never try for nvidia gc b4, don't have any comment about it...tanya skit bleh...klu gtx260 216SP GDDR3 best sgt, nape pakai Palit HD4870X2 Smile

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    HeHeHe..pasal guna X2? Aku mmg antu grahic. Kaki gamer cm aku ni susah..Biler dh msuk lvl Enthusiast cmni la jadinye..Bertukar graphic / hardware je..Aku xtremist nVidia dlu. Cuma bile dh tlbih passion, saje nk tukar taste ke ATi. Tu just comparison aku bg..Bukan nk kate 1 side je best, dedua ade pro & con tersendiri.. Wink

    Mmg nVidia ade plan tsndiri beli Aegia. Kerisauan migration ke ATi based buat nVidia x sng duduk. Tapi sbb Physx la nVdia hot blik..
    Aku ni pon nk jual X2 aku ni..wakaka GTX 295 kot pasni. Nk test blik green camp..rindu plak rase huhuhu

    PCZone? aku dh x kesana dh..nyampah lak tgk muka seko²..Bab warranty sume muka cam taik. Bile jual sume ader circle atas pala..
    asal tak amik 8800GT and above? dh murah dh..Mmber aku pon jual 8800 Ultra aritu pon RM400 lbih jer.. Very Happy
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    Post by neutron Tue May 05, 2009 3:56 pm

    bro.. ape beza 8800gt dgn 9600gt..?

    satu lg aku nk tny,, kalau yg biase beli barang pc kat lowyat.. kedai mane biase korang pilih?

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